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joeschmoe said in February 4th, 2010 at 7:27 PM

just outta curiosity, will the pilar still work manually without the batteries (i.e., if the batteries are dead

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Paperclip said in February 6th, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Thanks for this info.

Do you know how to override the touch feature so it can be used as a regular faucet. I know this seems like a waste but I just want to do it temporarily.

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canuckkerr said in February 19th, 2010 at 10:30 AM

I have connected my fuacet as per your instructions. I am incountering some issue and looking for some guidance.

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The faucet turns on at random times. When there is no one withn 10 ft.

If I put batteries back in,eveything works fine.

any suggestions?

Craig mcLaughlin

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Kirkhuff Eric said in February 19th, 2010 at 10:33 AM

Hello, call me and i can give you a few minutes.

714 329-4860 Eric

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Kirkhuff Eric said in February 19th, 2010 at 10:36 AM

I remember that one, your batteries are almost dead. This is real dumb. I bet it was 8-10 days after installation. You need to put in a transformer and forget batteries.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in February 23rd, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Yes most versions have a manual switching the small box

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button said in March 1st, 2010 at 1:36 PM

In the update you say 9 volts or higher. What about a 12 volt “wall wart”? These are pretty common.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in March 1st, 2010 at 2:07 PM

I performed quite a bit of tests but caution you to not go to the top as near the 12 mark the faucet electronics started drawing more current, which means that you could cause it to fail and or in worse case, a fire. (very extreme, but i want to be cautious. Most power supplies will fail before anything happens). Keep your voltage at 8-10 DC volts output, with under 500ma.
It seems crazy that Delta has not picked up on this. Please send them this blog link to them. You might have to call them to find an email to send to.
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El Phillips said in March 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Thank you Eric for your helpful information on the Delta touch faucet. On connecting the battery pack to the dc adapter, I took a 9v connector off an old smoke alarm and wired it to the adapter.

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Bill said in March 15th, 2010 at 10:42 AM

My plumber/electrician is going to install my Delta Pilar Touch faucet for me but did tell me to purchase the adapter for him so that he can perform this procedure. Could you quickly verify what I should be buying. I believe I am purchasing an Enercell Universal 1000 MA AC Adapter from Radio Shack. I should set this Adapter at 9 Volts as to not have any problems. Does this all sound correct?
Thanks for the verification.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in March 15th, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Again I cannot say it any better – I performed quite a bit of tests but caution you to not go to the top as near the 12 mark the faucet electronics started drawing more current, which means that you could cause it to fail and or in worse case, a fire. (very extreme, but i want to be cautious. Most power supplies will fail before anything happens). Keep your voltage at 8-10 DC volts output, with under 500ma.
It seems crazy that Delta has not picked up on this. Please send them this blog link to them. You might have to call them to find an email to send to.
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Bill said in March 16th, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Thanks for reiterating the info. I clicked on the “Radio Shack Recommended Power Adapter” link above and assumed that the volts and milliamps on that adapter would be adjustable. I just bought an Enercell 9 volt – 300 ma adapter from Radio Shack. Is there any reason that 300 milliamps would be too few? Or that I should have gotten an adjustable volt adapter? Again…just want to verify that what I bought should work. Thanks very much for the advise. I appreciate your website for all the useful information.

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Ekirkhuff said in March 16th, 2010 at 9:23 AM

You can try the 9 volt one transformers vary greatly in voyage accuracy. 300 ma is perfect. Go to 10-12 b if 9 does not work.

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amzz said in March 19th, 2010 at 2:09 PM

I purchased the product you have linked to on Amazon.com and that power supply is bad news. It doesn’t work at all with the Pilar and even at its lowest setting, it outputs 9-12vdc. I couldn’t get the faucet to work with the power supply. I wonder if newer models will not allow an A/C adapter?

Eric Reply – Did you switch the polarity or wires and is the power more than 300ma? If so, you should be fine unless they modified the electronics in the faucet. Also, you need to use a tester to make sure you did not short the wires together or it will blow the power adapter.

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turbo said in April 13th, 2010 at 5:11 PM

I am getting ready to do this, but need to order the power adapter. Is the one from amazon ok?

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Merc said in May 3rd, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Hi Eric-
After hooking this thing up to the wall, do you know how much current it draws? My wife is wondering how much we are going to pay to have this faucet standing by at all times.

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Doreen Sherwood said in May 4th, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Thanks for this info. I’m trying to decide if this faucet is worth the “bother.” I appreciate your clarity & helpfulness!!

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Mike said in May 12th, 2010 at 2:12 PM

Nice solution. Just a thought that others might want to consider. I was thinking about connecting the power adapter to a small UPS backup. That way, if you have a blackout, you can still use the faucet.

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Me said in May 14th, 2010 at 1:07 AM

Heck, just go to your local thrift store… they usually have a plethora of adapters! I’m sure you’ll easily find a 9v adapter.

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JITU said in May 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 AM

is 9V, 100mA adapter ok to use?

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Kirkhuff Eric said in May 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 AM

I was very specific on the specs as if you have too low of current it might affect the voltage and then it might chatter or just not work.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in May 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Most of the new ones have a switch on the black box that is under the sink for power failures.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in May 23rd, 2010 at 10:53 AM

It is totally worth it

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Kirkhuff Eric said in May 23rd, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Next to Zero, you will never see what it draws in a million years. Unless your a scientist.

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adityaa said in June 10th, 2010 at 6:17 AM

Thank you — Eric and all the comments! FWIW, I used the ff adapter from amazon (if you cannot find the one Eric reccs above): “Cables Unlimited AUD-6000 Universal AC/DC Power Adapter (Black)” Searching for “AUD-6000″ will find it. I set it at 9V and my Pilar has gone back to an amazing thing of beauty.
Also, I never had the low battery signal — my light was always blue but the faucet would not always work reliably.
Now it’s back to the early days of loving the faucet.
Thanks again!

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Kirkhuff Eric said in July 7th, 2010 at 7:55 AM

Glad you were helped, that was the purpose of the articale.

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mackgriggs said in July 27th, 2010 at 5:27 PM

I bought and installed the AUD-6000, and I started it at 1.5 volts, which didn’t work, and then at 3volts it worked fine….is there a reason why it would start working at such a low voltage? What would be the risks of going to higher voltage? (i.e….if the pack isn’t really outputting correct voltage, and if I moved it to 9 v if it really was outputting like 15V or something, could I fry my faucet?)

I really do appreciate the info Eric! No more batteries for me!

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mackgriggs said in August 28th, 2010 at 10:18 AM

I bought the “AUD-6000″ as mentioned above, and the pilar will work at low voltage settings like 4V….is there a risk at running the pilar at low voltage settings?

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Kirkhuff Eric said in August 29th, 2010 at 8:08 AM

Sorry for the delay in replying.

I would not go that low and it will not hurt it but it will be unreliable and maybe come on by itself at night.

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Kirkhuff Eric said in August 29th, 2010 at 8:12 AM

Actually, I ran tests up to 15-18 volts and it was not stressing. Most electronics have a governing device (called a Zener Diode or equivalent chip) that is set to kill the voltage if it gets to high. But when it gets to high, you run the risk of burning the protective device, not the unit. Some units have the protective device incorporated into the electronics as one package. You over voltage and pump it with lots of current, you can fry it.

You would be hard pressed to to this. 3-4 volts is the threshold. Remember it uses 4 1.5 volt batteries and that is a minimum of 6 volts. So, to answer your question, I would not go with 3 or 4 volts.

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